Comments for Voice Of Bolton - Bolton Wanderers FC Fan Site http://www.voiceofbolton.com Bolton Wanderers FC Fan Site Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:42:28 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Back to Square One by SenseiDB http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/back-to-square-one-2/#comment-5057 SenseiDB Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:42:28 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2791#comment-5057 Tony Adams as a defensive coach, and also someone to help improve shooting. We don't have the natural finishers available to us that we have had in previous seasons, so anyone that could help improve the goals to games ratio of our front men would also be beneficial; after all you can't win a game without scoring, and even if we were to create a solid defence, if we weren't able to put them away at the other end we'd still only be walking away with draws. I think what is primarily needed at the club however is someone who isn't afraid to say to OC that actually, his tactics are to blame to a large extent. There may be other factors involved there, yes, and it isn't fair to lay all of the criticism at the feet of mr Coyle, but he must realise that his tactics and team choices are the biggest factor in us being in the position we currently are. We have a team capable of picking up points and climbing out of the mire, as the results against Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal showed; however if they aren't deployed correctly then we end up losing to the likes of Wigan; a team that with all due respect shouldn't have beaten us, let alone control us in the way that they did for a majority of the game. Tony Adams as a defensive coach, and also someone to help improve shooting. We don’t have the natural finishers available to us that we have had in previous seasons, so anyone that could help improve the goals to games ratio of our front men would also be beneficial; after all you can’t win a game without scoring, and even if we were to create a solid defence, if we weren’t able to put them away at the other end we’d still only be walking away with draws.

I think what is primarily needed at the club however is someone who isn’t afraid to say to OC that actually, his tactics are to blame to a large extent. There may be other factors involved there, yes, and it isn’t fair to lay all of the criticism at the feet of mr Coyle, but he must realise that his tactics and team choices are the biggest factor in us being in the position we currently are. We have a team capable of picking up points and climbing out of the mire, as the results against Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal showed; however if they aren’t deployed correctly then we end up losing to the likes of Wigan; a team that with all due respect shouldn’t have beaten us, let alone control us in the way that they did for a majority of the game.

]]> Comment on Back to Square One by AJH http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/back-to-square-one-2/#comment-5056 AJH Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:44:44 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2791#comment-5056 The motivation and encouragement is a great ability to have but it doesn’t breed consistency. Successful teams have a foundation in the simple and fundamental aspects of the game. The basis should be to develop a solid backline and drill the team with their defensive responsibilities. Coyle’s have-a- go attitude did well for us last season but we saw it fall away towards the end. Now other teams have sounded out our defensive frailties and we’re not in a position to combat them. The 4-5-1 physically sets us out with extra defensive cover and the scorelines during those matches showed the benefits of that. We do have the benefit of some naturally gifted attacking players and the link up play in the 4-5-1 remained entertaining and relatively effective. I don’t want us to get rid of Coyle but we can’t carry on ignoring the problem and his stubborn approach to it will serve only to wind up the fans. Perhaps we could bring in an old school defensive coach as assistant manager. Tony Adams? The motivation and encouragement is a great ability to have but it doesn’t breed consistency. Successful teams have a foundation in the simple and fundamental aspects of the game. The basis should be to develop a solid backline and drill the team with their defensive responsibilities. Coyle’s have-a- go attitude did well for us last season but we saw it fall away towards the end. Now other teams have sounded out our defensive frailties and we’re not in a position to combat them. The 4-5-1 physically sets us out with extra defensive cover and the scorelines during those matches showed the benefits of that. We do have the benefit of some naturally gifted attacking players and the link up play in the 4-5-1 remained entertaining and relatively effective.

I don’t want us to get rid of Coyle but we can’t carry on ignoring the problem and his stubborn approach to it will serve only to wind up the fans. Perhaps we could bring in an old school defensive coach as assistant manager. Tony Adams?

]]> Comment on Back to Square One by SenseiDB http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/back-to-square-one-2/#comment-5049 SenseiDB Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:24:25 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2791#comment-5049 Coyle is a likeable guy, unfortunately 'likeable' and 'tactically sound' are two completely different things. His ineptitude is killing us, and something needs to be done quickly. I wouldn't say sack him, rather move him to a 'director of football' role (or something similar) and fill the manager's position with someone like Mick McCarthy (has a point to prove after his sacking) or Alan Curbishley (was a great manager for Charlton, could do great things for us). Owen still has things to offer, however sadly the tactics and team selection should be left to someone else. Coyle is a likeable guy, unfortunately ‘likeable’ and ‘tactically sound’ are two completely different things. His ineptitude is killing us, and something needs to be done quickly. I wouldn’t say sack him, rather move him to a ‘director of football’ role (or something similar) and fill the manager’s position with someone like Mick McCarthy (has a point to prove after his sacking) or Alan Curbishley (was a great manager for Charlton, could do great things for us). Owen still has things to offer, however sadly the tactics and team selection should be left to someone else.

]]> Comment on Back to Square One by tomcraven http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/back-to-square-one-2/#comment-5046 tomcraven Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:03:46 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2791#comment-5046 The annoying thing is that I thought he had cracked it with the 4-5-1 team of recent weeks. His team selection on Saturday however just defies explanation or rationale. The annoying thing is that I thought he had cracked it with the 4-5-1 team of recent weeks. His team selection on Saturday however just defies explanation or rationale.

]]> Comment on Coyle Denies Formation Is A Problem by barbarossa http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/coyle-denies-formation-is-a-problem/#comment-5041 barbarossa Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:25:41 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2805#comment-5041 Coyle is losing his marbles.......those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first drive mad. Coyle is losing his marbles…….those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first drive mad.

]]> Comment on Back to Square One by BWFC-TIL-I-DIE http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/14/back-to-square-one-2/#comment-5034 BWFC-TIL-I-DIE Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:47:02 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2791#comment-5034 If coyle was going to learn from his mistakes he would have done it by now !! If coyle was going to learn from his mistakes he would have done it by now !!

]]> Comment on Coyle’s Tactical Madness Defies Explanation by Adrian http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/13/coyles-tactical-madness-defies-explanation/#comment-5014 Adrian Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:30:33 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2784#comment-5014 Sadly have to agree completely. We could have actually got money for Kevin in the January window, not taking the money is naive and just plain silly Sadly have to agree completely. We could have actually got money for Kevin in the January window, not taking the money is naive and just plain silly

]]> Comment on Coyle’s Tactical Madness Defies Explanation by BWFC-TIL-I-DIE http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/13/coyles-tactical-madness-defies-explanation/#comment-5008 BWFC-TIL-I-DIE Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:33:49 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2784#comment-5008 4-5-1 for 90 minutes against Norwich and again against Wigan would have given us points.. I'm pretty sure we would either be 2 or 4 points better off than we are now rather than two defeats and right back in the mire !! What coyle has done is un-forgivable in our situation ! 4-5-1 for 90 minutes against Norwich and again against Wigan would have given us points.. I’m pretty sure we would either be 2 or 4 points better off than we are now rather than two defeats and right back in the mire !! What coyle has done is un-forgivable in our situation !

]]> Comment on Wanderers 1 Wigan 2 – Can’t He See The Bleeding Obvious? by AJH http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/13/wanderers-1-wigan-2-can%e2%80%99t-he-see-the-bleeding-obvious/#comment-5007 AJH Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:31:18 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2793#comment-5007 I'm always very cautious to start championing my own opinion or that of the fans over the management, that professional experience of the game should be respected and given significant weight, but I agree completely with you here. It's hard headedness to a potentially fatal extreme for the football club. I doubt that Coyle could convince me or many others about the benefit to the 4-4-2 change on Saturday, and the Muamba situation speaks for itself. Without a Sturridge or Elmander equivalent finding regular goal scoring form in the league, then the defensive situation stands out and we lose games. The all or nothing approach that he takes, which can be seen by the disproportionate amount of draws this season, is only appropriate on the up and the relative comfort of mid-table. The 4-5-1 was a means to an end and it was working. The passing philsophy remained in the link-up play between the N'gog and the three attack minded midfielders, but that points winning solidarity was present by screening the back four with two ball winning athletes. I truly hope he can see sense and make the necessary changes before its too late. I’m always very cautious to start championing my own opinion or that of the fans over the management, that professional experience of the game should be respected and given significant weight, but I agree completely with you here.

It’s hard headedness to a potentially fatal extreme for the football club. I doubt that Coyle could convince me or many others about the benefit to the 4-4-2 change on Saturday, and the Muamba situation speaks for itself.

Without a Sturridge or Elmander equivalent finding regular goal scoring form in the league, then the defensive situation stands out and we lose games. The all or nothing approach that he takes, which can be seen by the disproportionate amount of draws this season, is only appropriate on the up and the relative comfort of mid-table.

The 4-5-1 was a means to an end and it was working. The passing philsophy remained in the link-up play between the N’gog and the three attack minded midfielders, but that points winning solidarity was present by screening the back four with two ball winning athletes.

I truly hope he can see sense and make the necessary changes before its too late.

]]> Comment on Coyle’s Tactical Madness Defies Explanation by AJH http://www.voiceofbolton.com/2012/02/13/coyles-tactical-madness-defies-explanation/#comment-5006 AJH Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:16:27 +0000 http://www.voiceofbolton.com/?p=2784#comment-5006 I was surprised to see his comments in the BEN article today. There were some poor individual errors on Saturday but he's naive to think that the defensive situation and the number of goals we concede isn't down to formation and the way his side is set up. I thought the 4-5-1 for the rest of the season would have been our pragmatic solution to escape the drop. Keep it very tight at the back and use the variety of attacking options that we have to nick some wins. He must have expected that changing to 4-4-2 and bringing back SKD was going to get panned by the fans if he ended up losing to the bottom club who struggle to convert changes to goals. I was surprised to see his comments in the BEN article today. There were some poor individual errors on Saturday but he’s naive to think that the defensive situation and the number of goals we concede isn’t down to formation and the way his side is set up.

I thought the 4-5-1 for the rest of the season would have been our pragmatic solution to escape the drop. Keep it very tight at the back and use the variety of attacking options that we have to nick some wins. He must have expected that changing to 4-4-2 and bringing back SKD was going to get panned by the fans if he ended up losing to the bottom club who struggle to convert changes to goals.

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